The Israel-Palestine Thread

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Re: The Israel-Palestine Thread

Postby Val » November 9th, 2014, 4:18 pm

GregB wrote: (You clearly have no idea what the term 'nation-state' means.)


Well now, I am not a historian nor indeed very well educated unlike your good self. But if a person is born in a certain area like his father before him, also his grandfather or he can trace his descent even further back, does this not give him some rights to the land he inherited, why would an immigrant from the USA or Canada or Russia, Europe or anywhere providing they are Jewish have more rights to that piece of land, by what legal right does Jewish migrants claim heritage over this farmer who speaks the language of the land whose people have trodden these fields and villages for centuries?
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Re: The Israel-Palestine Thread

Postby Lyn » November 9th, 2014, 4:40 pm

I had an idea of what comprises a nation-state but thought I would look it up.
Wiki gives this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_state

and this one is quite good:
http://www.towson.edu/polsci/ppp/sp97/r ... atisns.htm
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Re: The Israel-Palestine Thread

Postby Bev » November 10th, 2014, 3:13 pm

Val wrote:
GregB wrote: (You clearly have no idea what the term 'nation-state' means.)


Well now, I am not a historian nor indeed very well educated unlike your good self. But if a person is born in a certain area like his father before him, also his grandfather or he can trace his descent even further back, does this not give him some rights to the land he inherited, why would an immigrant from the USA or Canada or Russia, Europe or anywhere providing they are Jewish have more rights to that piece of land, by what legal right does Jewish migrants claim heritage over this farmer who speaks the language of the land whose people have trodden these fields and villages for centuries?


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Re: The Israel-Palestine Thread

Postby Val » November 18th, 2014, 3:39 pm

Palestinians terrorists kill 4 in Jerusalem synagogue attack

http://news.yahoo.com/several-wounded-j ... 44730.html

Absolutely disgraceful, these murderous scumbags must be rooted out and anyone collaborating with them must also suffer.
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Re: The Israel-Palestine Thread

Postby Sprocket » November 18th, 2014, 10:35 pm

Agreed - but house demolitions are a typically extreme response by that bastard Netanyahu.
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Re: The Israel-Palestine Thread

Postby Pondero » November 18th, 2014, 11:06 pm

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Sprocket wrote:Agreed - but house demolitions are a typically extreme response by that bastard Netanyahu.


The Britisih did it in what is now Israel against Jews before 1948. Today, many Israeli Jews are opposed to the destruction of terrorist homes , as they think it hurts the extended family, in East Jerusalem (in this case) ,who may or may have not known about the planned attack.
Anyhow, Netanyahu is in charge and destroying the homes may act as a deterrent. They can't get away with it. Some Palestinians were rejoicing at the murders. What kind of people are they?
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Re: The Israel-Palestine Thread

Postby Val » November 19th, 2014, 9:43 am

Sprocket wrote:Agreed - but house demolitions are a typically extreme response by that bastard Netanyahu.

Agreed Stephen, (fekking commas)That ballcox Netanyahu must go otherwise there'll never be peace, they started demolishing homes again last night in East Jerusalem and have stepped up the process, they now propose to demolish homes of family members suspected of being terrorists even to aunts and uncles of suspects. What the hell does he think it will accomplish, this is collective punishment (illegal under international law) which they were forced to stop in 2005 when they were shown by reports that it didn't deter attacks.
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Re: The Israel-Palestine Thread

Postby GregB » November 19th, 2014, 1:04 pm

Agreed Stephen Netanyahu must go

Hell, I hadn't realised that he was a character out of one of James Joyce's novels, Val. Well, you learn sunnink, er sorry - something - every day. Can't wait for Bloomday (or should that be Boomday...? :mrgreen: )
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Re: The Israel-Palestine Thread

Postby Sprocket » November 19th, 2014, 1:11 pm

Well, we all know what happened to Daedelus's son Icarus: let's hope Stephen Netanyahu suffers a similar fate.
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Re: The Israel-Palestine Thread

Postby GregB » November 19th, 2014, 1:18 pm

Ditto the unelected Holocaust denier, Abbas, elected for four years as the 'president' of the corruption-ridden 'Palestinian' Authority in 2004 and now in his undemocratic tenth year of office, not to mention the would-be neo-Holocaust dictator of the Gazan murderous terrorists, Hamiyeh and all his cohorts.
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