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Re: Answers to climate change doubters.

Postby Serenjen » February 4th, 2016, 1:47 pm

Anyway, getting back to climate change.

Of course there is no definite proof that humans are affecting climate change. However, I think we can all agree that the planet is warming at the moment (see melting polar ice). We can also agree that man is releasing gases (methane, carbon dioxide etc) into the atmosphere in increasing amounts.

Are we agreed that the 'greenhouse gases' are vital in keeping the Earth warm?
Are we also agreed that we have increased the amount we've released since the industrial revolution?

So is the issue that more greenhouse gases would or would not warm the planet? I'm trying to workout how people where people think there's a myth...
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Re: Answers to climate change doubters.

Postby Pondero » February 4th, 2016, 1:59 pm

You have hit the nail on the head Serenjen. People have different views on this topic.
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Re: Answers to climate change doubters.

Postby Sprocket » February 4th, 2016, 11:01 pm

Quite - the scientifically sound view, and the unscientific deniers.
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Re: Answers to climate change doubters.

Postby Lyn » February 5th, 2016, 11:49 am

:) You are adopting the same attitude as Pondy, Sprocks, for the oppsite side.
None of us are scientists, certainly not scientists who specialise in this field, and the only way we know anything at all is by reading what others have written.
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Re: Answers to climate change doubters.

Postby Sprocket » February 5th, 2016, 1:51 pm

Exactly - and I go with 97% of climate scientists and 100% of national scientific academies, precisely because I'm not a scientist myself.
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Re: Answers to climate change doubters.

Postby Pondero » February 5th, 2016, 2:35 pm

The Germans followed Adolph Hitler into WW II and where did that get them. There are serious flaws in the scientific evidence for global warming, and I don't make my decisions based on percentages in favour of it.
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Re: Answers to climate change doubters.

Postby Pondero » November 5th, 2016, 10:04 am

Resurrecting this old thread at this time may spark some life and genuine debate on this website, then again it may not.
Christopher Monckton, third Viscount Monckton , has a degree in Classics and no scientific education that we know about and he is on the side of those who doubt man-made warming, although he does believe in global warming, he just doesn't think is man made that is all.
Before we start - if we start?? I will remind you that I am on the side of those who do not think global warming is man made.

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In the past people here have said I believe what 97% of the scientific community agrees on.Others have said our knowledge only comes from what we read.
Well taking the last point first one uses his common sense in distinguishing real knowledge from nonsense, and to answer the first point. Scientists are sometimes deceptive, guilty of lying for funding of course, and can snowball us with half truths or lies which we cannot always see through because of the technical language they use.
We cannot ask the scientist who has written to give us an example to illustrate what he said as he is not there in person.
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