Climate change again.

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Re: Climate change again.

Postby Sprocket » July 7th, 2017, 9:26 pm

Intelligent and thoughtful post from Greg above; I was expecting a rant!
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Re: Climate change again.

Postby GregB » July 8th, 2017, 7:24 am

I must have been having a good hair day! ;)
(People who met Hitler usually had a bad herr day...)
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Re: Climate change again.

Postby gone » July 8th, 2017, 12:55 pm

GregB wrote:I must have been having a good hair day! ;)
(People who met Hitler usually had a bad herr day...)


:lol:
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Re: Climate change again.

Postby Pondero » September 26th, 2017, 11:06 am

http://www.independent.co.uk/environmen ... 54496.html
Recent research has it that global warming models " were on the hot side." (See Nature Geoscience" and work of Myles Allen and Michael Grubb.)
The Science isn't settled...it is OK to be a denier!
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Re: Climate change again.

Postby Sprocket » September 26th, 2017, 12:22 pm

There's always been disagreement about the details, such as how fast it's happening, but this doesn't deny that it's happening at all.
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Re: Climate change again.

Postby Pondero » September 26th, 2017, 4:17 pm

It shows that the two have no evidence for global warming or for a carbon tax.The governments of the world have been bamboozled by these two professors.
I want my carbon tax back, but, I know I am not going to get it. Any excuse for a tax grab will do.
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Re: Climate change again.

Postby Val » October 1st, 2017, 4:03 pm

The deniers are usually top earners who invest their excess in Coal, Gas, Oil and other dirty industries that are harming our planet
Ten years ago the WHO issued a report that stated over 1 million lives are shortened annually just by coal burning alone and somewhere about 24,000 deaths are caused by coal burning in the USA every year, that report is 13 years old
Anyone here remember the London Smog
http://www.history.com/news/the-killer- ... -years-ago

Although this was a special case caused by stationary high pressure over London for almost a week it still goes to show how dangerous the burning of coal is.

A typical coal plant generates 3.5 million tons of CO2 per year in these are Sulphur dioxide, Nitrogen oxides, Fly ash, Mercury, Lead, Cadmium, Carbon Monoxide, Arsenic trace elements of uranium and thousands of tonnes of other pollutants hazardous to all life on this planet and that is just one plant, the release of these pollutants increase the greenhouse effect there, is no doubt about that
And that is just from coal

For the deniers, it is only a few short years ago that the deniers stated scientifically that cigarette smoking was harmless and had evidence to prove it, bought and paid for by the manufacturers and their crony politicians
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Re: Climate change again.

Postby gone » October 2nd, 2017, 10:11 am

Climate change deniers, like that idiot 'Trump', will be dead and gone before the worst happens. We need to do something NOW for the sake of future generations.
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Re: Climate change again.

Postby Pondero » October 2nd, 2017, 10:54 am

Global warming or climate change was not appreciatively affected by coal fires in England or the smoking of cigarettes, or the fumes of trucks, lorries, cars and aircraft.
What was affected was the health of individuals who lived ,as I did, surrounded by parents who smoked and by the lighting of coal fires when I returned home from school. And the fog or smog during the cold months in Leeds.
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Re: Climate change again.

Postby Lyn » October 2nd, 2017, 11:07 am

What caused the smog? I think that is relevant ( I have memory of it).
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