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Where are you on the political chart?

Postby Sprocket » April 11th, 2017, 7:12 am

As everyone knows, a simple, one-dimensional left-right diagram is inadequate to represent political positions. Political Compass put the parties on a two-dimensional chart, showing where they are on a left-right horizontal economic axis, and an authoritarian-libertarian social vertical axis. If you click on the link above, you can do a quiz to find out where you fit, and plot yourself against various groups of parties. This is me, compared with the UK political parties as they were at the 2015 general election.

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Re: Where are you on the political chart?

Postby Lyn » April 11th, 2017, 8:45 am

I got this which is as clear as mud to me:
Economic Left/Right: 0.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.03
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Re: Where are you on the political chart?

Postby Sprocket » April 11th, 2017, 11:35 am

It means you're bang in the middle left-right, and a bit more libertarian than me.
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Re: Where are you on the political chart?

Postby Lyn » April 11th, 2017, 11:57 am

Predictable I suppose.
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Re: Where are you on the political chart?

Postby GregB » April 11th, 2017, 3:25 pm

I can't reproduce the final framework, but I was placed on the vertical bar at two squares to the left of centre and just one square below the horizontal bar, which puts me fairly squarely near the centre, which probably represents my political position. It's really a bit of a mixed bag of ideas in the social area especially (I'm libertarian in some respects, though, for example, I answered totally negatively on the question of whether homosexuals can consider their condition as natural, a view I find repugnant.)

In short, these contrived quiz criteria apart, I am basically conservative (small 'c') as I totally and cynically distrust human beings and human nature and I could never be on the left with its unrealistic and unrealisable idealistic utopian ideas, laudable as they may be in principle, which when its social engineering fails on a moderate level has to resort to coercion to forge the 'new society', mostly over a mountain of corpses. Or else in laughable British terms, the preposterous nonsense of duffle-coated, CND idiot Michael Foot in the 1980's and the more laughable drivel of the Pooteresque clown Jeremy Corbyn* with his grating cockney whine and parochial politically Jurassic nonsense. British people have never liked political extremes, left or right, and the best option of the Labour Party was some kind of social democratic platform, but that was kidnapped by the shyster Tony Blair for his own ends.

Oh, and I hope Hilary Benn will be awaiting his moment, a potentially great Labour leader...

[*He certainly deserves an update on Churchill's withering comment about Clement Attlee - ironically a politician for whom I have the greatest respect; ditto Hugh Gaitskell, both great statesmen: "An empty taxi drew up outside the House of Commons and Jeremy Corbyn got out".]
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Re: Where are you on the political chart?

Postby Lyn » April 11th, 2017, 3:40 pm

Jeremy Corbyn's not a cockney! Nothing like one.

Don't dislike Hilary Benn.
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Re: Where are you on the political chart?

Postby GregB » April 11th, 2017, 3:46 pm

Well admittedly I'm not qualified to say definitively whether he's technically a cockney or not, but the fact is that I don't like his boring catatonic trance-inducing vocal style, which somehow reinforces his total irrelevance as a dullard and unimaginative party hack. Everyone knows that there isn't the slightest chance of the Labour Party winning the next election under his leadership (see my earlier comment about the British disliking political extremes.) Déjà vu...

Having said which, any thoughts on my previous post (ie. the future of the Labour Party, the realist possibilities or not of socialism, Hilary Benn as future leader, etc.?) Thanks - might be interesting.
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Re: Where are you on the political chart?

Postby Lyn » April 11th, 2017, 4:42 pm

:D Had to laugh as Corbyn is from Wiltshire (says it all really).

I don't know Greg but I do like Hilary Benn, seems like the real deal to me. I was an admirer of his late father, an old school parliamentarian.

(One to watch, Hilary's niece, Emily, is a Labour Councillor. She went to VIth form at St Olave's Grammar School in Orpington, not far from me. She's in her late twenties. Must be in the blood!)
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Re: Where are you on the political chart?

Postby GregB » April 12th, 2017, 9:14 am

Apparently Corbyn has spent most of his adult life in the London area so it wouldn't be surprising if he'd acquired something of the local patois, albeit a smoother version. People don't always retain the accent or dialect of their places of origin, examples of this being fairly recent interviews I've seen on youtube with the two of The Shadows from the Tyneside area - Hank Marvin and Bruce Welch - as well as one with Bryan Ferry, also a Geordie. None of the three has any trace of the distinctive Geordie twang and speak in a kind of neutral accentless manner, what might be called 'standard English', I suppose.

Anyway, moving on, I recommend others take the test in Steve's opening post here. It only takes a few minutes and is quite interesting.
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Re: Where are you on the political chart?

Postby Lyn » April 12th, 2017, 10:50 am

I was very surprised to read that Corbyn was educated at an Independent school in Shropshire before going to a grammar school! In that respect he is very like lots of Labour politicians who were at least partly privately educated but for some reason I didn't expect that to be the case for him. His brother used to be a Labour councillor in Bermondsey so they both gravitated towards the ground roots of Labour.

Yes it is quite an interesting test, I was in the middle with some of the questions so wasn't surprised at the outcome of my efforts. I don't know who else on here would do it except maybe Pondero.
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