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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby Sprocket » December 21st, 2010, 10:35 am

Pondero wrote:I was on it too, and quickly left it as a man called Shaker opposed everything written that didn't agree with his atheistic, pseudo-scientific interpretation of the world.

You mean he disagreed with everything that he disagreed with? Outrageous! :roll:
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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby Lyn » December 21st, 2010, 5:34 pm

Hee hee, Pondy has been infected with Vix grammar.
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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby Pondero » December 21st, 2010, 9:10 pm

Victoria Plum wrote:Hee hee, Pondy has been infected with Vix grammar.


It is a bit like saying "No Man Speaks the Truth." an oxymoron.
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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby Lyn » December 21st, 2010, 10:09 pm

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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby Sprocket » December 22nd, 2010, 9:52 am

Pondero wrote:It is a bit like saying "No Man Speaks the Truth." an oxymoron.

Why is that an oxymoron, which is otherwise known as a contradiction in terms, e.g. "wise fool" or "Christian atheist"? If spoken by a man, it must be untrue, because it's paradoxical if true, but if spoken by a woman, though it is in fact obviously untrue, it's neither oxymoronic nor paradoxical.
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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby Pondero » December 22nd, 2010, 11:16 am

Sprocket wrote:
Pondero wrote:It is a bit like saying "No Man Speaks the Truth." an oxymoron.

Why is that an oxymoron, which is otherwise known as a contradiction in terms, e.g. "wise fool" or "Christian atheist"? If spoken by a man, it must be untrue, because it's paradoxical if true, but if spoken by a woman, though it is in fact obviously untrue, it's neither oxymoronic nor paradoxical.



Leave women out of it Sprocket, because I was using the term "Man" in its generic sense.
It is a contradiction because if no man speaks the truth then the writer of it is not speaking the truth, if what is written is untrue then the writer speaks a lie. Now I have a headache :grin: . A cup of coffee is in order.

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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby Sprocket » December 23rd, 2010, 9:13 am

That's not an oxymoron, it's a paradox, and only half of one at that, because it's only paradoxical if considered to be a true statement. If considered as a false statement, which it obviously is, it's not paradoxical, just wrong. A fully paradoxical statement would be, for example, "This statement is false", because if it's false, it's true, and if it's true, it's false.

Anyway - a happy logical Christmas to you and all!
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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby Pondero » December 23rd, 2010, 11:43 am

The American Heritage Dictionary defines an oxymoron as n., pl., -mo·ra (-môr'ə, -mōr'ə), or -rons.
A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in a deafening silence and a mournful optimist
. The Canadian Oxford Dictionary and the Oxford Dictionary of Current English define oxymoron as a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction.
Therefore, I maintain that "No Man Speaks the Truth" is an oxymoron.
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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby Sprocket » December 29th, 2010, 9:15 am

Pondero wrote:The American Heritage Dictionary defines an oxymoron as n., pl., -mo·ra (-môr'ə, -mōr'ə), or -rons.
A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in a deafening silence and a mournful optimist
. The Canadian Oxford Dictionary and the Oxford Dictionary of Current English define oxymoron as a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction.
Therefore, I maintain that "No Man Speaks the Truth" is an oxymoron.

And I give up. :roll:
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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby gone » March 4th, 2011, 4:03 pm

I post on nglreturns, which is ok, if a bit slow. It is much better in temperament since a certain poster, whom most of us consider to be unhinged, was banned a few weeks ago.
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