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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby Sprocket » December 21st, 2010, 10:35 am

Pondero wrote:I was on it too, and quickly left it as a man called Shaker opposed everything written that didn't agree with his atheistic, pseudo-scientific interpretation of the world.

You mean he disagreed with everything that he disagreed with? Outrageous! :roll:
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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby Lyn » December 21st, 2010, 5:34 pm

Hee hee, Pondy has been infected with Vix grammar.
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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby Pondero » December 21st, 2010, 9:10 pm

Victoria Plum wrote:Hee hee, Pondy has been infected with Vix grammar.


It is a bit like saying "No Man Speaks the Truth." an oxymoron.
Let nothing disturb you.
Let nothing make you afraid.
All things are passing.
God alone never changes.
Patience gains all things.
If you have God you will want for nothing.
God alone suffices.

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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby Lyn » December 21st, 2010, 10:09 pm

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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby Sprocket » December 22nd, 2010, 9:52 am

Pondero wrote:It is a bit like saying "No Man Speaks the Truth." an oxymoron.

Why is that an oxymoron, which is otherwise known as a contradiction in terms, e.g. "wise fool" or "Christian atheist"? If spoken by a man, it must be untrue, because it's paradoxical if true, but if spoken by a woman, though it is in fact obviously untrue, it's neither oxymoronic nor paradoxical.
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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby Pondero » December 22nd, 2010, 11:16 am

Sprocket wrote:
Pondero wrote:It is a bit like saying "No Man Speaks the Truth." an oxymoron.

Why is that an oxymoron, which is otherwise known as a contradiction in terms, e.g. "wise fool" or "Christian atheist"? If spoken by a man, it must be untrue, because it's paradoxical if true, but if spoken by a woman, though it is in fact obviously untrue, it's neither oxymoronic nor paradoxical.



Leave women out of it Sprocket, because I was using the term "Man" in its generic sense.
It is a contradiction because if no man speaks the truth then the writer of it is not speaking the truth, if what is written is untrue then the writer speaks a lie. Now I have a headache :grin: . A cup of coffee is in order.

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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby Sprocket » December 23rd, 2010, 9:13 am

That's not an oxymoron, it's a paradox, and only half of one at that, because it's only paradoxical if considered to be a true statement. If considered as a false statement, which it obviously is, it's not paradoxical, just wrong. A fully paradoxical statement would be, for example, "This statement is false", because if it's false, it's true, and if it's true, it's false.

Anyway - a happy logical Christmas to you and all!
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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby Pondero » December 23rd, 2010, 11:43 am

The American Heritage Dictionary defines an oxymoron as n., pl., -mo·ra (-môr'ə, -mōr'ə), or -rons.
A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in a deafening silence and a mournful optimist
. The Canadian Oxford Dictionary and the Oxford Dictionary of Current English define oxymoron as a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction.
Therefore, I maintain that "No Man Speaks the Truth" is an oxymoron.
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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby Sprocket » December 29th, 2010, 9:15 am

Pondero wrote:The American Heritage Dictionary defines an oxymoron as n., pl., -mo·ra (-môr'ə, -mōr'ə), or -rons.
A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in a deafening silence and a mournful optimist
. The Canadian Oxford Dictionary and the Oxford Dictionary of Current English define oxymoron as a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction.
Therefore, I maintain that "No Man Speaks the Truth" is an oxymoron.

And I give up. :roll:
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Re: Hey - Anybody remember NGL?

Postby sarniajoy » March 4th, 2011, 4:03 pm

I post on nglreturns, which is ok, if a bit slow. It is much better in temperament since a certain poster, whom most of us consider to be unhinged, was banned a few weeks ago.
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