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Postby Sprocket » September 10th, 2017, 4:11 pm

I've just received a three-day suspension for responding in kind to an insulting post from someone else. I don't think he has been suspended. Oh well - sod 'em.
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Re: 'Religion and Ethics' forum

Postby Lyn » September 10th, 2017, 4:17 pm

Welcome to club Sprocket except in my case I was banned for good :D . I sort of understood why I was banned so had no hard feelings (tho' course I thought they were wrong), I said at the time I wouldn't discuss the reason anywhere else and I've stuck to that, sarnia came on here a few months ago and was fishing but I didn't bite (Sarnia has been suspended before now). My only gripe was that I couldn't even access the forum any more & would have liked to in order to read what was going on but time passes and that doesn't bother me now. Doubt I was missed.

Badge of honour to be suspended or banned Sprocket! Well done.

We shouldn't talk about it here though.
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Re: 'Religion and Ethics' forum

Postby GregB » September 11th, 2017, 7:51 am

I vaguely recall visiting the site around three or four years ago and not liking what I found. It seemed to be yet another theological battleground for squabbles and in-fighting between believers with different perspectives, many of them the 'usual suspects'; ie. ultra-fundies and HTT's (Holier Than Thou's) as well as those defending orthodox mainstream positions whose idea of turning the other cheek seemed to involve the non-facial variety. Then there were the sceptics, like Sarniajoy, specialists in manure spreading and mud slinging (some, at least, without negative IQ's...)

I got fed up with such sites long since with their endlessly sterile, heated arguments and St.Thad's is the only forum with Christian content of which I am a member now, its great merit being its blend of religious and non-religious elements. It's a pity there aren't more active members and I'm sure those who are also fed up with ballistic Christian-only sites would find it refreshingly different, whilst I recognise that forums seem to be in general decline in favour of Facebook, Twitter and other social network media.
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Re: 'Religion and Ethics' forum

Postby Sprocket » September 11th, 2017, 8:25 am

You're right in your analysis. It is full of pretentious pseudo-intellectuals who've picked up a superficial smattering of philosophical terms which they use at random, and in particular fallacy-nerds who are forever replying to posts with "petitio principii", "argumentum ad populum", "consequentialist fallacy", etc - just the name of the fallacy, no explanation, which is mere unhelpful showing off. I started a thread taking the mickey out of that habit recently. They were rather miffed. It's a complete wanker's paradise, and I'll probably leave it again soon: I just drop in from time to time, post for a few weeks, then leave it again.
I think you're also right in suggesting that Facebook and Twitter are causing the decline of independent forums, though what anyone with two brain-cells to rub together sees in Twitter, I know not: the stupid, arbitrary 140-character limit rules out the possibility of any real discussion. Facebook is another matter: it has no such limit, and is very useful.
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Re: 'Religion and Ethics' forum

Postby Lyn » September 11th, 2017, 8:51 am

We're all different, I liked posting there, found it stimulating. Yes, plenty of pseuds, stock phrases and an in-crowd but that didn't bother me. It was quite a shock that I was banned but now it worries me not. As I said in previous post, what irked me was being unable to even look! I'm used to it now.
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Re: 'Religion and Ethics' forum

Postby Sprocket » September 18th, 2017, 11:28 am

Been banned for a month now, just for getting rather impatient with another poster - one of the admins, for heaven's sake - who was deliberately winding me up. All I said was "sod it, I'm tired of arguing with idiots". I may or may not go back after my suspension.
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Re: 'Religion and Ethics' forum

Postby GregB » September 18th, 2017, 4:57 pm

If I had been subject to suspension on the basis of such a trivial 'offence', my reaction to the grubby little jumped up jackass of a moderator would have been in sign language; ie. two fingers in the UK, the middle finger in Europe...
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Re: 'Religion and Ethics' forum

Postby Lyn » September 18th, 2017, 8:31 pm

Sprocks, none of what you have said surprises me. If your face fits all is well. You cannot ever challenge the mods but there was one mod in particular when I posted there who questioned every tiny sentence and would not let anything go! Otherwise an OK chap. You can't be a moderator and be like that, there has to be, well, moderation, tolerance, impartiality. No nit picking!

I hope you do go back, become a mod and reinstate me :D, or at least allow me to read the forum, I can't even get access!
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Re: 'Religion and Ethics' forum

Postby Sprocket » September 18th, 2017, 9:26 pm

When I'm allowed back in October, I'll put in a plea on your behalf!
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Re: 'Religion and Ethics' forum

Postby GregB » September 19th, 2017, 7:36 am

Groucho Marx once joked that he wouldn't want to be a member of any club which accepted him as a member. Well, to paraphrase that in another sense, I wouldn't want to be a member of a forum which had moderators like that, constantly breathing down your neck and straining out a nit. I think there's an art, even delicacy (as well as tolerance and impartiality, as Lyn says) in moderating and many of those on these forums just don't have it. The one in question on R&E sounds to me like one of those petty dictator types who abuse the little bit of power they're given. Clearly there has to be some control of excesses, especially personal abuse, but on Christian forums, moderation is often determined by the urge for control or the particular brand of religious bigotry of the moderator. (Incidentally, who moderates the moderators?)

As I said earlier, I got tired of such forums, not least for the endless recycling of the same old arguments and debates, with rarely any new slant or perspective, which would at least have a revitalising effect and keep glazed eyes at bay.
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