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Re: Drinks and Nibbles

Postby Sprocket » January 7th, 2013, 6:33 pm

My parents had a E.P. of humorous songs by Paddy Roberts, who was popular in the 50s, with an instruction on the back of the sleeve: "This record should be cleaned with a moderately dry Martini."
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Re: Drinks and Nibbles

Postby flying finn » January 7th, 2013, 9:54 pm

Bev wrote:
Sprocket wrote:I tried a new cocktail recently. It's called the 'Liberal Democrat', because it has absolutley no effect whatsoever.


:D

I've only ever had a martini once in my life. It was a vodka martini, and I remember it was a smoother drink than I anticipated it to be. My oldest son remarked he had always thought martinis would taste like jet fuel.

For Christmas, I bought Chris (the oldest, who is now a fan of vodka) a bottle of Ultimat Vodka. It's a mix of wheat, rye, and potato. While visiting him recently, he had ordered a vodka tonic with this particular brand. I tasted it and was surprised how smooth and clean it was. He was also impressed. He was happy with his gift too. :D


There are a number of things which affect the taste. The first is the type of gin or vodka one decides to use. Where gin is concerned a London dry has more of an edge to it. As for vodka, Russian Standard or Finlandia are naturally smooth. Then there is the proportion of spirit to vermouth. A classic martini has proportions of about 3:1. I like mine quite dry so I'll use proportions of about 6:1 or even 8:1. The mixing with ice is also very important and this is what takes the edge off the spirit the most because it chills the cocktail and introduces water into it (the glass also should be chilled). I always garnish mine with a twist. I like olives but the citrus beats the olive by a country mile.
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Re: Drinks and Nibbles

Postby Bev » January 7th, 2013, 11:04 pm

Your martini sounds really good, as you've clearly perfected making them. I do remember the person who made the only one I ever had saying something about the importance of knowing just how to mix it (with ice) before pouring into the glass. But, you've explained why that makes sense.

There was a time when I enjoyed gin and tonic. My favorite was Tanqueray. But, as with most drinks, my want of them seems to fade away after awhile.

Speaking of the citrus twist, the best Manhattan I've ever had was in an old bar in Ybor City, FL (near Tampa.) Now, I realize, he made it exactly as you described, even cooling the glass, taking great care with the ice mixing, and twisting an orange peel over the cold, empty martini glass (releasing the oils), and then adding the twist after he poured the drink. It was sooo good! That would be a kind of martini, I would think, a 2:3 bourbon to sweet vermouth (with a dash of bitters--gotta have the bitters.)
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Re: Drinks and Nibbles

Postby flying finn » January 8th, 2013, 4:47 am

I've never actually tried a Manhattan but it's definately on my to try list. During the summer on holiday in Germany I had Long Island ice teas. Refreshing in the summer heat.
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Re: Drinks and Nibbles

Postby GregB » January 8th, 2013, 8:17 am

There's a famous bar here in Barcelona which specialises in cocktails called Boadas after the man who opened the bar in the 1940's. It has preserved the original decor inside, which is perfect for savouring the ambience of the classic epoch of cocktails:
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And here is a photo of one of the barmen using the characteristic technique of pouring and mixing ingredients at the same time, certainly an acquired skill (they also use the traditional classic cocktail shakers for most of the cocktails.)
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All the famous cocktails are available and there's always a 'cocktail of the day' which has a slightly reduced price (around 7 or 8 euros, as I recall.) A visit there is obligatory for all cocktail-lovers (take note, FF!) Though Boadas is the 'cathedral' of cocktail bars, there are now quite a lot of bars in the city which specialise in cocktails.
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Re: Drinks and Nibbles

Postby flying finn » January 8th, 2013, 9:49 am

Classy. :)
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Re: Drinks and Nibbles

Postby Bev » January 8th, 2013, 2:55 pm

Agree, that is classy. I'd go just to see that bartender pour drinks. :D

Btw, I got the proportions wrong on the Manhattan. It's 2 parts bourbon to 1 part sweet vermouth (the important dash of bitters is the same.) ;)
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